----- Original Message ----- From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:29 AM Subject: RE: peace out!
> At 14:14 08-05-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: > > >The way I see it, an insult or personal attack conveyed by a post to > >Brin-L is a hollow attack. It might seem like an attempt to bully you > >into shutting up, but such an attack is all bark and no bite. > > I disagree. Such attempts are made exactly to silence someone, and such > behaviour is an implied threat that more attacks will follow if the victim > refuses to shut up. > > > >But something like a web-of-shame has teeth. It cannot be blown off as a > >bit of hyperbole, nor can it be ignored as a simple breach of manners. It > >has to be taken seriously as a threat to livelihood and reputation in real > >life. > > Again I disagree. It is no more of a threat than the existence of on-line > archives. People seem to fear that messages on a Wall of Shame will be read > out of context. Well, the exact same thing can happen with messages in > on-line archives. Therefore, you should be equally opposed to the existence > of such archives, and demand that (in our case) Yahoogroups.com and > Mail-archive.com remove their Brin-L archives, and demand that the Great > Brin-L Archive never be put on-line. > So.........the intent of the archives at those sites is to shame people? I dont think so. > > >In other words, I have no control over how your web-of-shame might impact > >my real-world life. > > You also have no control over how messages in on-line archives might impact > your real-world life. Do you want to see them removed as well? > I doubt that anyone would suffer much if they disappeared forever. They are a sideshow at best and a distraction at this point. xponent Too Much Crap Maru rob
