> From: Kenneth G. Cavness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
> Subject: [TAN] The Rise and Fall and Rise and Fall of Progressivism
> Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:48 AM
> 
> K-Mart, WorldCom, Enron, Global Crossing, Anderson -- they're big
names, 
> and even bigger bankruptcies (or, in the case of WorldCom, they will 
> soon be bankrupt). K-Mart's can be blamed squarely on the fact that
they 
> got greedy and thought they could go up against Wal-Mart. But they had 
> to get greedy, because they're a publicly traded company.
> 
> When a company is publicly traded, they are responsible to their 
> shareholders. Since the shareholders are, by and large, an anonymous 
> morass of investors, they cannot tailor their message to any one given 
> person. Instead, they must focus almost entirely on earnings and
profit. 
> If earnings and profit don't rise, the investors get spooked and put 
> their money elsewhere. So, big spending on things like livable wages, 
> good health care, or a retirement plan for your employees has to take a

> back seat to whether or not your fourth-quarter earnings met 
> projections.
> 
> For over three decades, now, the prevailing view has been that this is 
> as it should be. Regulating industries caused the industries to buck 
> more than a wild mustang, and they used their power and influence to 
> come up with some damn good arguments for their positions. It was 
> certainly enough to pull the wool over the eyes of those who either 
> couldn't remember what it was like in the days of Upton Sinclair's The 
> Jungle, or put up with little things like hiding asbestos health 
> findings because they could see the dollar signs dancing just behind 
> their eyes.
> 
> In a true laissez-faire capitalist free-market system, it would be up
to 
> the consumer to determine the safety and usefulness of any given 
> product. In our current system, however, companies are given a veneer
of 
> safety around which they try to poke as many holes as possible in order

> to maintain the appearance of safety while still spending as little as 
> possible doing so. In this economy and in this country, it is so much 
> more important to maintain a good image than it is to actually do what 
> is requried to be done to have a good image.
> 
> In a heavily regulated economy, the government determines the safety
and 
> usefulness of any given product. Normally, you'd think that the 
> government would be an impassionate observer, but because of the low 
> salaries that government positions by their very nature provide, a 
> government regulator is going to be open to bribes and kickbacks.
You're 
> given little less assurance of safety under government oversight than 
> you do by eyeballing things yourself.
> 
> And it's certainly obvious at this point that the current system isn't 
> working. The SEC and FTC seem to be powerless to stop the train wrecks 
> that are businesses at this point. Companies had to lie, cheat, borrow,

> and steal in order to cash in on the stock market boom of the late 
> 1990's, and the kind of people they brought in to do this just kept 
> right on doing it, long after there was a profit in doing so. What's 
> worse, they then had to try to cover it up, so they looked at every 
> accounting loophole that the government has given them in order to do 
> so.
> 
> So, what's my point?
> 
> You're going to see, very quickly, two things: a rise in activism 
> amongst Democrats who finally have found the anecdotes to go along with

> their points, and a rise in those who will jump to the Green party, 
> since it is headed by Ralph Nader, king of the consumer advocates.
Those 
> in the Republican Party now who were there because of economic reasons 
> might switch, but those in the Republican Party who were there because 
> of social reasons will stay.
> 
> Unfortunately, this means that the Democratic Party is about to split 
> right down the middle. Those that see it as the only way to effect 
> change will stick around, and those who see it as a failed party will 
> rush to the Green Party.
> 
> Which means that the Republicans will stay in power. These are people 
> whose entire philosophy is a mirror of those of the upper eschelons of 
> Corporate America. They can craft legislation that will have a great 
> deal of bark and little actual bite, much as the corporate world crafts

> press releases or has press conferences while giving out as little 
> information as possible. In other words, nothing will change.
> 
> It won't mollify the progressives much, but they'll have their own 
> problems internally, fighting about which party, the Greens or the 
> Democrats, is ruining the progressive advantage.
> 
> What's so bad about this?
> 
> Nothing will change, but you will still have the agitators in Congress 
> and locally who will do all in their power to root out the corruption
in 
> the economy. WorldCom's just the start. We all know that everyone was 
> doing this in the 90's, people, and it's only a matter of time before 
> the truth is illuminated in a corporation that actually has a huge 
> impact on America. When it does, you're going to see investors flee en 
> masse from just about everything. This will mean that the possibility
of 
> raising capital will be lost to the other companies, who will have
their 
> credit ratings lowered, which will mean that corporations lose yet 
> another way of raising capital, and that's by underwritten loans.
> 
> Without operating capital, these corporations will have to rely on 
> things they haven't had to rely on for 30 years -- profit and real 
> earnings. They won't be able to grow unless they actually have the 
> profits to allow them to grow. This will cause investors to flee en 
> masse from just about everything. This will mean that the possibility
of 
> raising capital will be lost....
> 
> Do you see the vicious cycle here? Our country is Parliament, and 
> accountants are the Guy Fawkes, their hands on a match. And whether
they 
> get proven the fools, or get blown up, the outcome is still the same.
> 
> We're headed for another Great Depression.
> 
> Think I'm wrong?
> 
> When the companies go bust, they will have to make huge layoffs. 
> Consumers will finally be shaken enough that they will have to stop 
> spending money and start saving, which will add further to the loss of 
> profits and earnings from these corporations. The U.S. consumer is the 
> sole reason we're not in a depression now. When they finally get 
> disillusioned enough to stop spending money, it's all over. The carnage

> will be massive, and in many cases it will be final.
> 
> Think the government will bail us out this time? I don't. We already 
> have a debt so high that it takes up a huge portion of our government's

> spending. If it tries to bail us out now, it won't have a leg to stand 
> on.
> 
> This entire country's economics are based on lies, deception, and 
> trickery, and it is our fault. For believing what we wanted to believe,

> instead of looking for the real truths.
> 
> So, what do we do? Can we put the genie back in the bottle? Is there
any 
> way to say "okay, so we know it's all based on a pack of lies, but just

> to keep things going, we're going to pretend we never heard this?"
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kenneth G. Cavness
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.cavness.org/
> 

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