> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: Geen > Aan: BRIN-L Mailing list > Onderwerp: RE: Goodbye (was Re: Demanding change (was RE: Mmm, mesquite > sm oky goodness (was Re: (~) Please.)))
> > First you make a highly subjective judgement, and then you go on to > > say I should not worry about the proof. See, now *that* is something > > I find worrying. When someone makes that kind of claims, they do that > > because they know they will not be able to provide that proof when > > asked for it. So, I will ask you again: how many of my approx. 2,600 > > messages to this list indicate that I am a "medium level asshole"? > > Not all, I'll grant. It's an intermittent but chronic and recurring > problem. If you had examined those 2,600 posts, you would have found very little evidence to back your statement about me being an asshole. Using your method, pretty much everyone on this list could be considered a medium-level (or even extreme-level) asshole. Are you willing to go on record as saying that pretty much everyone on this list is an asshole? > Like herpes sores. Do not know about you, but I never had herpes so I cannot comment on that. > Do I care? Not really. I've decided that the only rational course is > to state my mind in order to try to get what I want. So did I. I stated my mind in order to try to get what I want (proof and answers). But rather than getting what I want, my entirely reasonable request was met with a load of hostility this list has rarely (if ever) seen before. Apparently personal attacks became allowed on this list but people forgot to inform me about that. > I especially want people to *say* what they want, and what they're > willing to do to get it. How can we possibly cooperate if we're all > too "civil" and too flame-shy to speak frankly about what we want? I doubt anyone here will ever dare speak frankly about what s/he wants anymore. It has become painfully obvious that doing so will lead to a lot of hostile responses from people who disagree with you. I submit the posts of the last ten days or so as evidence of that. > I'm not willing to allow myself to be conditioned into docility by the > desire to avoid another listmember's temper, however. However, that is exactly what people expect *me* to do. Several people here have been trying to push me into docility (or maybe "bully me into docility" is a better choice of words) in the last ten days or so. The message they are sending is that if I dare defend myself against attacks, I will be considered an outcast. Now, why should I have to accept being pushed/bullied into docility, while at the same time everyone else would not have to accept it? > > Yeah, well, personal attacks do tend to limit my display of my sense > > of humour. Given that from where you are sitting you are getting the > > wrong impression about my sense of humour and my judgement skills, > > maybe you should go sit somewhere else. > > Or maybe the real-life Jeroen, the one with the people skills, should > be allowed on-list instead of you? He is on-list, actually. And he hates injustice just as much as the cyberspace-Jeroen does. Actually, they are one and the same person. And of course, calling someone a medium-level asshole is a wonderful demonstration of having people skills, right? Jeroen -- still demanding that Erik provide the proof and answers _________________________________________________________________________ Corrupted-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com Tom's Photo Gallery: http://tom.vanbaardwijk.com
