--- Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> 
> >
> > And why is this _fascism_? In the perfect world
> prophecised by
> > our Overlord Himself, 100% of the citizens of the
> world _would_
> > be spies.
> 
> Because the government agencies and interests
> controlling the spies won't
> be similarly policed.

In _The Transparent Society_ Brin 'foresees' two
cities, both with cameras everywhere, but in one it is
only the police and 'Establishment' who have final
oversight, while in the other, any citizen can access
any camera - rendering the government accountable for
its actions. (So those citizens aren't really spies as
much as eyes, gossipy and potentially overzealous,
perhaps, but they too are accountable.)

I don't see Ashcroft or Cheney wanting to be held
accountable for their actions as company leaders...I
certainly don't want them to have the power to spy
unchecked upon anyone they choose.

As someone else has pointed out, our intelligence
people might have put 2 and 2 together, if only they
had communicated within/between agencies more freely. 
I don't want to hobble our ability to find dangerous
plots out, but I think that frisking 80 yo grandmas at
the airport isn't improving national security.

Debbi

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety."       -Ben Franklin


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