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It isn't the golf that helps you solve the problem, it is the process >of looking at the problem from a different angle. And there are more >efficient ways to do that than golf.
Now just a minute; i have had many creative ideas while playing golf. I have devised creative uses of my putter (the putter javalin throw was my idea). Did you know that a golf cart can do a 360 after a bad shot by simply hitting the breaks real hard when going down a steep hill at maximum speed? Oh yeah and thought f a way to use diffusion imaging to evaluate neurodegenerative diseases (well in fact my physicst thought of a solution to this problem after I posed it to him but I was thinking about him when hit my ball in the water for the forth time on the 9th hole)
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Subject: Re: Religion, the good side
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Religion, the good side
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:01:09PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > Good lord, an innovative technique, including coming up with a
> > radically new design, building and testing hardware, all within a
> > year?
>
> If they spent 6 hours per day working and it took two years, then yes,
> it is likely it could be done in one year if they spent 12 hours.
Isn't that like saying if you can run a marathon in 2 hours and 15 minutes,
you should be able to run 200 miles in 16 hours? I can't keep peak
efficiency for creativity for more than an hour at most. I've lead a team
under intense time pressure, implementing a design after the creative work
was done. Yet, we couldn't work steady 12 hour days without causing more
harm than good.
>
> > But, the creative stuff requires me to do things like clean the
> > kitchen, play golf, etc. in order to solve the problem. When I stop
> > looking at the problem, the solution appears.
>
> And the solution probably would have appeared faster if you weren't
> doing those other things. There are lots of things you can do to change
> your viewpoint on a problem, talk to others about it, read books, make a
> list of all possible solutions that have worked in the past for related
> problems, check your journal of ideas that you keep, or any of another
> million ways that you can look up in various problem solving books.
Very few creative people I know are list creators. Very few creative people
I know go to problem solving books. That's good for solutions to mundane
problems, not real creativity. The real trick for creativity is to not
work consciously. Its to let the back of your mind do the work. So, part
of the problem is to distract the front of your mind to keep it from
interfering.
>It isn't the golf that helps you solve the problem, it is the process
>of looking at the problem from a different angle. And there are more
>efficient ways to do that than golf.
OK, out of curiosity, what's your track record for creative solutions that
are copied by the rest of the industry? You are saying something that
contradicts the general understanding of the most creative productive folks
I know. I'm not trying to be insulting, but I would be more likely to give
your ideas the same weight as those who have if you've accomplished what
they have.
Indeed, we may just have to agree to disagree on this point. But, I'd be
interested in your experience with industry leading creativity. If there is
more than one way to skin the cat, then there are more things that I can
try when stumped.
Dan M.
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