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> Behalf Of Richard Baker

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> The thing is, it's not possible to prove the Big Bang. How would one
> even go about trying to prove it?

But this guy is questioning the very notion of order arising from chaos, as
though science couldn't possibly deal with such a concept.  Hello?  We don't
need God to show how that happens.  From my point of view, God created a
universe made of stuff that works that way; if there's a miracle there, it's
that such things exist, not how they behave.

How much education will it take for people to realize that understanding how
creation works, whether in evolution, the birth of the universe, or
whatever, doesn't rule out God's existence?  I suppose I run the risk of
offending some friends (not here, I suspect) by saying that every time I see
some Christian slogan or symbol decrying Darwin, I immediately tend to
assume that it belongs to someone who ever learned much of anything about
the science of evolution.

And on this subject, is anyone here familiar with Dr. Charles Townes and his
talks on science and Christianity?  He's speaking near here on Feb. 8th and
I'm thinking of going.  He's the inventor of the laser, a Nobel laureate and
the flyer for the talk says he "will speak on the modern convergence between
science and religion into a unified way of understanding reality."

Nick

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