> -----Original Message----- > From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 03:05 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance' > > > I see. You are so concerned about the people of Iraq > that you are willing to do - what, exactly, to help > them? Nothing, of course. As is usual with you, > Jeroen, you criticize constantly but propose nothing. > You're awfully fond of challenges, Jeroen, so here's > one to you.
Here's one for you - can you respond without insulting or attacking anyone? > What _should_ be done in Iraq? What do > you propose? I await your brilliant solution to the > problem of a totalitarian sociopath with weapons of > mass destruction, a nuclear weapons program, and a > proven desire to dominate the world's most important > strategic commodity. Gosh, I don't know - I thought not talking to N Korea was the right answer this week... oh wait! You meant IRAQ!! See, you confused me, since Iraq doesn't have WMD, a nuclear program, and we've militarily contained him for over a decade (and last I heard, we had no licsenced psychologist's report on his state of mind..) > While doing so, I also eagerly await the evidence of > how you were so concerned with the people of Iraq for > the last 20 years or so. Also, unless you believe > that a million Iraqi civilians will die in the war - > and if you believe that, you're a fool, which I think > is not true - explain how as many Iraqis will die in > the war as will continue to die under Saddam? What a strawman - accuse him of racism and then answer his protests against such argumentative slander with this? > If people like you had run Europe in the 1930s - well, > we know the answer to that question, right, because > people like you _did_. For a continent so obsessed > with its history, y'all show an astonishing ability to > not learn from it. Time out. Calling Jereon a Nazi is (or should be) offensive to everyone. This is WAY out of bounds. > > > I don't think the US will ever leave. Technically > > speaking, the occupation > > will end once a new (and probably US-puppet) > > government has been set up, > > but I don't think the US will pass on the > > opportunity to set up a huge > > military power base in the heart of the Middle East. > > That puppet German government, the way it always does > exactly what we say - that's so convenient, isn't it? > Out of curiosity, what happened to the puppet > governments we set up in France, Germany, and Italy? I fail to see the connection, since the US /has/ maintained a huge military presence in Europe since WW2, and Jereon was not speaking towards Europe, to boot. > If the best you can do is "It's all about the > ooooiiilllllll" then this gets a lot less amusing. > Even most of the serious opponents of the war have > given up on an argument that ludicrous. The ludicrous point is that people are upset that this IS about oil. Damn right, protecting the price of oil is a huge part of our foreign policy, and it SHOULD be. Of course, it SHOULD be counterbalanced by non-military means of projecting power, and a domestic policy that promoted finding alternatives and reducing dependance on volitle foreign oil, but gosh.. -j- _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
