On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 07:58:54PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:

> Well that may be what he meant, but this is what he said:
>
> > Whether they are or are not, unfortunately, will have no effect on
> > European public opinion, for two major reasons:

> > 1. The people protesting the war don't give a damn about Iraqi
> > civilians - they're just a prop to attack the US with

While I wouldn't have phrased it so absolutely as that, it does seem to
me that a majority of war protesters don't adequately consider the lives
of most of the Iraqi people. In fact, I can't remember ever seeing an
anti-war position presented that made a convincing argument that the
best thing for the Iraqi people is for Saddam to remain in power. The
closest thing I have seen is an unsupported reference that there could
be a lot of civilian (Iraqi) casualties in the war, but I haven't seen
a war-opponent take the next step and compare that possible outcome
(preferably providing support for why they think their estimated numbers
are correct) to what has happened and is likely to continue to happen to
Iraqis under Saddam.

The Americans fought to be free of the British, and the British were
much more humane rulers than Saddam. The French fought to be free of the
nobles. The Iraqis haven't put up much of a resistance to Saddam, but
it seems to me that it is more likely not because most Iraqis desire
Saddam's rule, but rather because Saddam is so brutally competent at
suppressing resistance. Perhaps a closer analogy would be American
slaves -- they didn't put up an effective resistance by themselves but
needed help from Lincoln and the Northern army to win their freedom.



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