--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He doesn't acknowledge any where that there could be
> any other reason 
> for protesting the war.  I agree with you that most
> of his missive was 
> well thought out, but if he means what you said he
> means then this part 
> of it was very poorly written, seemingly labeling
> any and all protesters 
> as bigots and racists and coming off as rather
> xenophobic.  
> 
> Doug

All protesters wasn't fair, I will admit.  I'm under a
fair amount of stress and have been rather ill
recently, so I wrote that kind of hastily. 
Incidentally, people, watch out.  There's some sort of
36-hour bug going around that was the _worst_
experience of my entire life.  I lost five pounds, and
didn't eat from Sunday through Thursday.

That being said, though - how come no one at the
protests was holding up banners saying "Freedom for
Iraq"?  Where was the concern for the people of Iraq
two years ago?  Why do the leaders of the protests
consistently seem to view George Bush as far worse
than Saddam Hussein?  Where is _any_ concern for the
freedom of the Iraqi people, or any acknowledgement
that Arabs too want peace and democracy?  Why don't
any of these things stir the enthusiasm that attacking
the United States does?  The average protester is not
necessarily consciously racist or uncaring about the
Iraqi people - but the assumptions that underlie their
worldview are, I think, exactly that.  You can, on
ruthlessly pragmatic grounds, argue that we should not
intervene in Iraq.  It is a morally consistent, and
even justifiable, position to say:
1. Deterrence works
2. It's not the job of American/British soldiers to
die for _other_ people's freedom
3. We can contain Iraq without an all-out invasion
4. The condition of the people of Iraq is not my
concern
Therefore, do nothing, or at least do as little as
possible.  I would respect that.  I wouldn't _agree_,
but I would respect it.  I could possibly even be
persuaded to agree with it, actually.

Arguing, though, that you oppose the war _because you
think it would be bad for the people of Iraq_ is not a
respectable position.  Period.  If that's your
argument, then you are simply failing to make sense. 
The worst government any of us could imagine the US
imposing would be a million times better for the
people of Iraq than Saddam.  The highest civilian
casualties likely in a war would be fewer than the
number killed in any given year by Saddam.  You can
argue against the war because you think it would be
bad for the US, or for Britain, or for whomever you
want.  I respect that.  If you argue against the war
because you think it would be bad for the people of
_Iraq_, then I have to call that one as I see it.

Gautam

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