--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But a good number of the people marching aren't
> necessarily in agreement
> with ANSWER's general policies.  Additionally, there
> are smaller rallies and
> marches organized by people *not* connected to
> ANSWER.  Will you tar them
> *all* with the ANSWER brush?  What about
> demonstrations where people are
> gathering not to protest, but to pray for peace?
> 
>       Julia

I was, to some extent, baiting Jeroen to prove a
point.  Where were these people a year ago?  Two years
ago?  Five?  Where was their concern for the people of
Iraq _then_?  That's what bothers me.  Peace is well
and good.  Anyone here opposed to peace?  Anyone?  But
peace at what price is the real question, and it
doesn't seem to me that they have proposed a coherent
answer.  If they are genuine pacifists I respect that
position - I don't agree with it, but I respect it -
as long as those pacifists are willing to acknowledge
that the consequence of their pacifism is leaving a
monster like Saddam in power.  The consequence of
their pacifism is that the nightmare of the people of
Iraq will continue.  That more Iraqis will die than
could ever die in an American invasion.  If they are
willing to accept and acknowledge that consequence,
that's a morally serious and legitimate position for
which I have great respect, and there's no tarring
involved.  They have a legitimate stance.  But if
they're not willing to acknowledge that, then I
honestly think that they _don't_ have a legitimate
moral position.  Gandhi was willing to accept, for
example, that forswearing violent resistance to
Britain might well delay Indian independence - it
probably did.  He thought that was a worthwhile
sacrifice.  Part of your moral stance has to be a
realistic evaluation of the costs of that moral
stance, otherwise you're living in a fantasy world.

In this particular case, it is striking that the
ANSWER marches and rallies are so large, and that the
people in them vigorously applaud the vilest
anti-semitic and anti-American slurs.  Doesn't this
tell us something?  Shouldn't we judge them for that?

Gautam

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