On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:17:23AM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:

> But I see the thinking as wonderfully clear.

I don't, and even Marvin said he didn't.

> Your logic misses the point that we have elevated Sadaam to a much    
> higher level of importance than is necessary or desirable.            

No, it IS necessary if something is to be done about him.

> You suggest that we should "Promote a world organization that only
> allows membership to liberal democratic states" but apparently fail
> to see that the present administration has squandered the best
> opportunity to establish such an institution.

This is fuzzy thinking on your part. The latter does not follow from the
former.

> The way we are forcing a solution down the worlds throat has
> repercussions far beyond the immediate situation, and may set back the
> establishment of any truly effective world organization for decades.

And you believe that by opposing the war to remove Saddam, you will
improve the chances of establishing such an organization?

I think that you are right that Bush could have done a much better
job of building support among many democratic countries for action
against Saddam, and this might have formed the beginnings of a League
of Democratic States, but I disagree that by not doing it he has set
things back a great deal. If there is a war in Iraq, afterwards there
will be another chance to start building such a coalition, during the
efforts of reconstruction and nation-building. Rather than spending
efforts protesting the war, such efforts could be better spent lobbying
for such a policy. A grass-roots organization lobbying for this sort
of thing would be a lot more effective than the war protestesters and
anti-globalization crowd, I think. And if that opportunity is missed,
then we should create another one after that.




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