On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:19:04PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> Erik Reuter wrote:

> 'pologize for speaking metaphorically.  What I mean is that violence
> begets violence.

You claimed that directly attacking terrorist killers is a bad idea
because more will be created by your actions than you eliminate.

Now you "apologize", but do you now retract that claim as being a bad
metaphor? I am not being deliberately obtuse here -- I think it is a key
point. If killing 1 creates X, then it is absolutely key to know whether
X is more or less than 1, and helpful to know by how much, when deciding
on what to do. (Of course, X could depend on the situation, sometimes
being greater, sometimes less than 1, but the general point remains)

>  The more we invoke extreme emotion, the less we should expect a
> rational reaction.  Anger and hate can be infectious memes, and our
> position atop the hill makes us the prime target.  IMO anyway.

And sometimes the only rational reaction to an irrational person is
force or violence.

> >That is fine. But so is directly attacking the problem. We need both
> >police AND social programs.
>
> I couldn't agree more.

So you support the US attacking Saddam's regime? It is hard to
imagine a more clear-cut case of where force is the only rational
solution. Afterwards, then the more gentle means should be employed for
long-term peace, but now with a crazy, violent dictator in charge?




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"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       http://www.erikreuter.net/
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