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From: "Jean-Marc Chaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War


> * Dan Minette [Sat, 15/03/2003 at 10:25 -0600]
> >
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> > From: "Jean-Marc Chaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: RE: Deadlier Than War
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> > So, would you have been a pacifist in WWII?
>
> No. I talked about bombing innocent civils. Sometimes force has to be
> counterd by force, military against military.

But, if one tries as hard as possible to limit damage to military targets,
civilians will still be killed. Especially, if one's opponent knows that
one is trying to avoid killing civilians and uses them as shields for
military assets. So, given that fact, must we chose not to go after any
military targets?

There is no doubt that the fewer the civilian casualties in Iraq, the
better for the US.

> And somehow, talking about WWII, I can speak about WWII and bombing and
> civilian loss. My town (Saint-Nazaire) is an harbour and has been used
> by german navy. To prevent them to use the harbour Allies bombed it.
After
> the war 90% of the town was destroyed (not the harbour). One of the
> worst bombing killed 40 pupils in their school. It's still in the
collective
> memory.

I think this illustrates the problem.  Back in WWII, bombings were very
inaccurate.  It was impossible to pick a military target without hitting
civilians.  The question is/was: do we refrain from bombing military
targets so as not to kill civilians.

>In the nearby town, Resistance killed one high rank military
> (bullet in the head in the street, that's war, they were invaders). In
> retaliation they took 50 people in hostage, asking Resistance to
> surrender or they killed the hostages. Resistance didn't surrender, they
> killed the hostages.

I've read that French resistance was fairly minimal, and that most French
cooperated willingly with the Germans. Do you have a good source on the
extent of French resistance?

Dan M.


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