> the other list, because I'm not going to learn my place in
> order to stay on.  I'll probably write one message first.

I don't think anyone was asking you to "learn your place"; there seems to be
an agreement amongst most of the people who've been trying to debate that
you keep changing subject etc.

(Disclaimer: I stopped reading the threads in detail quite some time ago, so
I'm making no comment either way.)

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