----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Plonkworthy?


> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:31:49PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote:
>
> > Not all religions.  And please don't think that all people who call
> > themselves Christians are part of the same religion.
>
> I could just as well say, please don't call yourself Christian if
> you don't want me to think you are irrational or extremist. Guilt
> by association. There are and have been MANY irrational, cruel, and
> extremist Christians.

As there have been many irrational, cruel athiests.  If you look at the
20th century, genocide at the hands of people who's primary identity is
religeousis a small fraction of the total genocide.

Now, if you want to argue that any organized ideology/philosophy is a
religion, like Willy does, then you can probably wiggle out of this.  But,
since nothing has every been accomplished on a significant scale without
such a foundation, then one is left with the fact that those who do little,
do little wrong.

Dan M.


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