On 9 Jun 2003 at 20:29, Erik Reuter wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:15:50AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> > Judaism is both a people and a religion.
> 
> A people generally means those living in a certain area or those born
> of certain people. In as much as Judaism is a religion and in the
> context I was discussing, it is not a people because the fact that you
> live in an area or are born of someone Jewish does not mean that you
> choose to practice Judaism.

If your mother is Jewish, YOU ARE JEWISH. No two ways about it.

> This is really a silly semantic argument, because I think you know
> what I meant. If you want to call someone Jewish who doesn't choose to
> associate themselves with the religious aspects of Judaism, fine. But
> that wasn't a group I was referring to.

Judaism is a LOT more than a religion. It is also a people, a culture 
and an idelogy (Zionism). Different Jews are involved in different 
aspects of Judaism - just because a Jew is not religious does not 
make them any less a Jew.

There are other examples like the Druze.

So sorry, I have to utterly disagree with you. It's not semantics at 
all. I'd say the *majority* of the students who go to the local JSoc 
(Jewish Society) events aren't really religious, in fact. But they 
consider themselves Jews.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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