--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Starting over, I first need to make a correction. I used the word Liturgy
> when I meant Parish. My bad.
>
> The responses have been great, and I could spend hours replying back, but I
> only want to say these few things.
>
> In its most base form, I believe that a Christian is defined strictly as
> one
> who believes that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, that he was crucified, and
> was resurrected. ANYTHING else is dogma, and subject to serious
> disagreement.
>
> My point overall, is that the term "Christian Values" can mean most
> anything. However, it is most commonly used as a tool to provide some
> evidence that because the values are associated with Christ, that that
> makes
> them the "right" values. Everyone who has responded to this thread has help
> me illustrate that the definition of Christian values encompass a wide
> range
> of values. This combined with the definition of what is a "Christian", it
> cannot be precisely defined, and is, in fact, filled with many
> contradictions.
>
> However, in most every case I hear the term "Christian Values" it is in the
> context that only those who have "Christian Values" are decent people, and
> the rest of the population is contributing to the destruction of the world,
> in what ever form. Commonly it is used as a directed attack in accusing
> others of NOT having Christian values, implying one is bad or evil. This
> really pisses me off...
>
> This exercise has helped me understand that I have little to complain about
> Christian Values. In reality, I have a strong opposition to the way in
> which
> the term itself is used.
>
> I, by no means, want to imply that a belief in Christ is in anyway
> depreciating. Nearly all of my friends are Christians. If I have made
> anyone
> feel bad, I apologize. My anger is at those who use "Christ" as a blunt
> weapon, in an attempt to depreciate other beliefs, values and actions.
>
> Is this clear?
Wow you must hav egot !some! off list whoper. This was clear all along I thought.
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