----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles
tohaveglobalreach)


> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 07:37:35PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > Pretty much what I said in the last post. The biggest difference
> > between us is that you seem to take all this discussion very very
> > seriously as if your self esteem was at stake. I suppose thats why
> > you seem to want to turn various discussions into "one-ups-manship"
> > pissing matches.
>
> Rob, I said I was done with your part of this thread, but this is rather
> a different subject and I wanted to let you know why I will be ignoring
> any of your posts about technical subjects in the future.

Why do you think that anyone would care if you don't feel like talking about
a particular subject with them?

I thought that kind of self-importance only grew near tulips.
<G>

>
> Yes, I take technical subjects very seriously.

Sooooo.....elevators and bungee cords are technical subjects.

> I do not like to see
> incorrect statements about scientific subjects, nor do I like to see
> quantitative or well-supported arguments contradicted by ambiguities or
> arm-waving (they should be contradicted by other quantitative methods
> or by other well-supported arguments).
>You, on the other hand, appear
> to make technical statements off-the-cuff without careful consideration
> of whether they are correct or relevant.

Recall Erik that you ignored completely the existence of the elevator
control system and never addressed it. Then you give stats for all steel
cable when the cables used by elevators have a manila rope core.
So much for your well supported arguments........

> And then you get upset when

No, not at all. Its just a mailing list. I hang out with my friends here and
talk to them or listen. Its not that big a deal. (Unlike some other events
in the past that did have me upset.) Don't read to much into it. As far as
I'm concerned we are talking about ......stuff.

> you get called on them, saying that the discussion is too serious and
> is being made into a "pissing match".

Serious discussion is fine by me, I was pointing at serious confrontational
tactics and aggressive behavior. I hope thats clearer.

>Whatever you want to call it,
> the important thing in a technical discussion is that the correct
> information is conveyed. Unfortunately, I think that in almost every
> technical discussion we have had, save one, you have obfuscated the
> issues rather than clarified them, and I would rather spend my time
> learning than participating in such useless discussions.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I will agree that there is some lack of
communication going on or that we are not listening well. But I am trying,
and I would hope that you would give me the benefit of the doubt when such
matters arise.


>
> So, that is why I will be ignoring your posts on technical matters in
> the future. Now I really am done with your part of this thread.
>

If that's how you feel Erik then I will be OK with that.
I sense some sort of antagonism from you that I don't feel myself (towards
you) and I wonder if I have done something that has offended you and made
you dislike me. It seems to me that you don't have much in the way of
respect for me and I wonder why.
For all I know everyone here thinks I'm a nutcase, but are too polite to say
so.

xponent
Wondring Aloud Maru
rob


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