> Jan wrote-
> What about an education system and workplace that are now more focused on
> empathic and rote memorization ability than on problem solving ability?

While I am not the most up to date on teaching methods, the only "large 
scale"
changes I can recall that have impacted the majority of school systems are
"new math" (what was the "old" math?) and "whole reading" (versus phonetics).

> "Womens lib" has benificial effects, but it also has some detrimental 
effects
> as well. I suggest that technolegy and buisness would be progressing much
> faster had "Womens lib" never happened. The focus in the work place on
> empathic systems rather than problem solving systems leads to a highly
> political environement more focused on polotics than getting the job done.

I can't recall any literature that just the presence of women inherently
politicizes a situation.  The things I am familiar with are that there are
differences in communication, group dynamics when males/females
were researched in general/isolation.  Work place culture is a blend 
of the people, goals, corporate leaders, structure, etc, it is simplistic
to think that one very general concept (Womens Lib) is the cause of 
another general thing (politics) without some sort of additional supoort.


> Support for this can be shown in advancements made in the last century 
prior
> to "womens lib" and those made after it. 
>
> If this were true, then a socity which desired to gain advantage by being
> more efficient would recognize the abilities and benifits of both 
"gendered"
> mindsets and the spectrum between the two extreems. And focus not on an
> overreaching standard, but on the strengths of the individual, and the
> benifits of the microcultures which employ both modles.

How would you measure "efficient"?  Worker productivity has reached 
higher and higher levels since "Women's Lib", wouldn't this seem to 
support progress overall?   

> i.e. I think we are shifting from the standard being the "male" model to 
the
> standard being the "female" model and this is why you see the numbers in 
the
> article. At the same time I do not think that either extreem is the best 
one,
> but rather the acceptance of individuals.

I certainly don't see a "female" model, but agree with Debbie's later posts-
more and more people are learning how to "put in the effort and work" to
get to where they want to "be".  Politics and "who you know" will always
be present, but as demands for efficiency and productivity become more
demanding (and outcomes more measured) hopefully there will be more
effort to select "the best person".  
 
Dee
Sore, tired and finally clean after the Hurricane Isabel clean up exercise 
program
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