In a message dated 11/15/2003 8:45:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Let's just say that I think that's noticeable.
> 
> I'd say some incredible discrimination is noticable. All of 
> them are
> human.

How about being less coy about this. There is of course a difference. Ruby Ridge was 
something that got out of hand. It was a trajedy. It was not the result of a series of 
decisions by our government to withhold rights from individuals. The prisonsers in 
Quantonamo are another issue. I did not have problems with them being held initially 
but there has to be a time limit on this. At some point we need due process here
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