----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: Scouted: Environmentalism is Evil and Must Be Destroyed
At 04:43 AM 12/20/03, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe second-hand smoke isn't as dangerous asAnecdotaly, I got bronchitis *every time* I was
professed, but I am sure as
hell happy I don't have to breathe it anymore.
exposed to 2nd-hand tobacco smoke for more than 3
hours straight (as at a bar, or driving in a car with
a smoker -- I avoid such exposure religiously now).
Pun intended?
It takes a lot less time than that for me to become ill from it. Even being in a room where people have been smoking can do it.
*Note: Not a defense of smoking* [You may now return to the discussion which is already in progress]
Do any of you who get "ill" (Not sarcastic quote marks, I use them to mark the difference between actual sickness and the kind of illness I am positing) around tobacco smoke get ill around other types of smoke? How about on the freeway or on downtown streets?
If not, I suggest that this kind of "illness" might be for the most part psychosomatic.
You never used to hear people, with any regularity, make these claims before, say, 1980 (date pulled out of hat).
Personally I have noticed that my sensitivity to smoke has been heavily increased the less I'm exposed to it. Nothing psychosomatic about it.
When I was in college everybody around me smoked and only while in class I sometimes had a smoke free environment unless the teacher was a smoker in which case even there I was inhaling second hand smoke. My parents also smoked, all their friends smoked, so at home I never had a smoke free environment. Now a couple decades onwards I'm living virtually smoke free all the time, except for the few visits to my mom's house where there is just one person left that smokes all the time, her partner. My mom quit a long time ago. When I get back from one of those visits where I usually get smoked like a salmon, when I don't bring Tom around, I usually have no voice left, my head hurts, my eyes feel like they have been rubbed with sanding paper, my throat hurts and I can't seem to stop coughing. After a bad nights sleep the next day I invariably am unable to breathe through and as a result am very very tired. It usually takes me a couple of days to catch my breath after the experience.
As you say, it could be psycosomatic but the burning in my throat, the lack of breath and the coughing 'till I almost black out after being exposed a bit longer to second hand smoke feel very frightening real to me.
Rather then psychosomatic I'd think that now that we have more and more smoke free areas, peoples tolerance levels for smoke irritants have gone way down and that that is the main reason why we didn't hear many complaints in the 80ties whereass now a days where you can live your life almost smoke free without too big a heartship, most non-smokers feel that second hand smoke makes them feel unwell and sometimes even ill.
Sonja GCU: Black lungs
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