----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton


>
> So, in other words, it seems to me that you are making a non-falsifiable
> claim.  There is absolutely no evidence that can be presented to you that
> will persuade you that Halliburton is profiteering, right?

Nope.  There certainly would be evidence that would make me believe that
Halliburton actually is obtaining a modest rate of return on their
investment in Iraq.  I was just pointing out that what you presented was
not that evidence.

My objections are not wild hypothesis that are untested.  The type of
actions I describe are, as far as I've seen in 20+ years in the industry,
normal business procedures.  Other posters have given examples of this
happening in the entertainment industry, too.

The oil patch is much smaller than one might expect from the outside.  I
know folks in 'most every service company.  We trade stories.  I've always
been interested in how the companies have worked, and have asked a lot of
questions over the years.  I know people who were fairly high up in
Halliburton, and we've swapped stories about how companies do things.

If these folks were to tell me, for reasons X,Y,Z, Halliburton actually
made a lot less than they expected to from the Iraq contracts, then I'd be
inclined to believe them...since they've given me good information in the
past.  However, I will not accept reports that have often not reflected the
true profitability of an operation as valid without evidence that standard
operating procedures have not been followed. Particularly, when the buzz I
get from people who are in the field and are thinking of doing business in
Iraq is that the potential for profits there are enormous.

Dan M.



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