"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote:
>
> At 08:55 PM 1/11/04, Julia Thompson wrote:
> >"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote:
> > >
> > > At 09:45 AM 1/11/04, Steve Sloan II wrote:
> > > >Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know about financial models, but I do know that
> > > > > judgement, especially when immediate judgement on critical
> > > > > issues is necessary, is affected by fatigue. For one thing,
> > > > > tired people tend to be grumpy people, and may do things
> > > > > they later regret.
> > > >
> > > >I think both of us are looking at this issue from a programmer's
> > > >viewpoint, where long hours usually *are* a sign of poor planning,
> > > >either by the managers who didn't hire enough people, or on the
> > > >software engineering side, where time for completing tasks was
> > > >severely underestimated.
> > >
> > > That's true. (I'm sure all here have heard the rule for turning project
> > > time estimates into more realistic predictions: multiply the estimate by 2
> > > and change to the next larger time unit, so an estimate of "1 day" is in
> > > reality likely to take 2 weeks to complete, and an estimate of "two months"
> > > means it is likely to really take four years . . . and I won't even make
> > > another reference to "The Mythical Man-Month" . . . )
> >
> >Ah, but it's an excellent book. Anyone trying to manage a programming
> >project ought to read it, IMO, and it's worth reading even if you're
> >*not* trying to manage programming projects.
>
> I agree! I have praised it so many times on this list that I thought I'd
> give everyone a break from doing so again. (Someday maybe I should even
> buy a copy to call my own.)
>
> >(Did I ever mention having been on a bus briefly with Brooks?)
>
> No. Anything interesting to report?
Not really. Just that I was on the same bus as he was, and realized
just who it was before I saw the nametag to confirm, just from what he'd
been talking about. I thought it was cool.
(This was at Siggraph in 2000. That's the same week I last had a meal
with Hector Yee, as well -- we had lunch together one day at a Chinese
restaurant near the convention center in New Orleans.)
> > > Actually, though, I wasn't thinking of programming examples when I wrote
> > > the earlier message. One profession where many people think fatigue is
> > > frequently the cause of serious (too often, fatal) errors is the medical
> > > profession. And as far as tired people being grumpy even if they don't
> > > want to be, and yelling at the people they really don't want to yell at,
> > > just ask any new parent, particularly a first-time parent . . .
> >
> >Yep. What he said....
> >
> > Julia
> >
> >There and Doing That (and contemplating the t-shirt) Maru
>
> Probably contemplating *any* shirt without spit-up on it . . .
Acutally, I've had this shirt on since I got out of the shower last
night before bed, and it has remained free of spit-up by some miracle.
My *pants*, on the other hand....
Julia
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