From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: In defense of Biblical marriage Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:56:16 EST
> Fair enough. One always needs to hope from time to time. But hope is
> perpetually optimistic. And it's been my experience that optimism is in most
> cases, a complete disregard for the truth.
>
I can't _prove_ faith, and I'm not trying to. I was merely putting forth the
position (or, rather, _a_ position) that exists within my faith. It's how I
try to live my life. My choice. Doesn't have to persuade you, or anyone else.
Just what I think.
Tom Beck
I was hoping you'd say that. I was also "optimistic" that you were simply putting forth a position and not preaching. So I hope you can forgive me for taking such a hard line. I just had to be sure.
My argument still stands however. Even in the face of religious doctrine. Of course people are encouraged through their faith to take affirmative action in conjunction with prayer! How else could results be realized? It's in that encouragement though, that things begin to fall apart. Or rather they begin to to get bogged down in a whole lot of gobbledygook.
In order to simplify my position, allow me to just say that God (as a concept) is delivered to us as an infinitely loving and powerful being. We are also led to believe that through prayer we can on some level communicate with God. Now shouldn't we, if God does indeed answer our prayers, need nothing else other than prayer? Well religious doctrine tells us different. But don't you see? I'm now full circle back to where I started. It's the doctrine itself that poses the problem. It's simply a way to keep people in line, by establishing such dazzling intricacies as "the human mind cannot comprehend God's plan". Well if that's not the most depressing thing I've ever heard, then I don't know what is! I like to think that we have the potential to understand and better our knowledge of the Universe don't you?
I just think that in keeping things simple, prayer, in conjunction with action, doesn't make any sense at all.
-Travis
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