> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 02:50 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Abstinence education Re: Liberal Talkradio > Network To LaunchMarch 31 > > > > "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 02:09 PM 3/12/2004 -0800 Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > >I am likewise incensed that *my* tax dollars go to > > >fund abstinence-only programs (which in MN at least > > >have failed to prevent teen pregnancy - see my post > > >on the ENABL report), and faith-based anything, as > > these violate 'separation of church and state.' > > > First, the is no a priori religious connection to > > abstinence. There are a > > number of very sound reasons for strongly advising > > high school students - and younger, to not have sex. > > > As I have clearly advocated in various posts. But > there certainly _is_ a connection to *abstinence only* > programs -- which are the ones I referred to. As I > clearly stated in my posts.
I don't think there /has/ to be though, is there? I can imagine an abstinence-only program that was completely secular. I've never seen it, mind you, but then, I've also never seen the Northern Lights, but I believe that they exist :) Deborah, how do you feel about Abstinence being included in sex ed as an _equal option_? > > In addition, it is worth noting that > > non-abstinence programs > > tend to overlook the fact that condoms are not > > effective at preventing a number of serious STD's. > > Cite? > > [Of course, _incorrect_ use of condoms fails not only > at pregnancy prevention but STD prevention as well, > and engaging in oral sex without some kind of barrier > will allow transmission of various diseases like > syphilis.] Yeah, I don't buy the "condoms don't stop HIV because HIV is small enough to pass through the latex" arguments either.. although those seem to be less common these days. - _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
