--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "G. D. Akin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Coffey
> 
> > Can explain why. T&A has allways been a big part of Sci-Fi and 
Sci-Fi
> > fandom.
> >
> > So much so, that furrism is a direct offshoot of sci-fi fandom.
> >
> > There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting
> > some way more often that Archer. Even Picard and Rieker were 
getting
> > it more than Archer.
> >
> > If anything, I would think that SG1 has way too little T&A to
> > be "serious Sci-Fi"
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> To answer your first question:  Nerds like SF; nerds understand the 
science;
> nerds are socially inept; vicarious T&A is the only T&A nerds 
get . . .
> until the movie, that is.
> 
> Another line of thought:  remember the final scene in Alien?  When 
Ripley
> (Singourney Weaver) did the little strip tease before discovering 
she had
> more company than Jonesy?  That is one of the best T&A in SF ever, 
IMO.

 I ment to say explain why T&A would make something ~not~ serious 
SciFi.

And as a nurd I would like to disagree with the socially inept bit. 
Yes we socialize differently, but that doesn't mean we are not 
getting any!!! In my experience 8) nurds get it a lot more often.  
Becouse we socialize differently, it seems that we don't have a lot 
of the sex hang-ups the general population has. No matter how private 
we keep that lack of hangups. But it's not just that, there is also 
the way we learn to socialize, like one would learn to play a piano. 
Having to learn to socialize as a skill means we understand the 
socialization we are capable of more thuroughly. And when we start to 
break down a system logicaly we can get good at it.  Apply this skill 
to a party setting and voila.


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