--- "John D. Giorgis" wrote the following message that I am answering here. As with most right wing rationalizations, it is a total pretzel of self-fooling ditziness.
Fundamental: you cannot find one policy of this admin is to advance the interests of 20,000 frat brothers, including several hundred Saudi sheiks. Duh. The Bush's Saudi masters did not love Saddam. They simply hated the Iranians more. SO while Saddam was savaging his own people and killing a million Iranians, Cheney/Rumsfeld were propping up Saddam with all their might. The Saudis had reasons. They deeply fear a return to US-Iranian friendship. BEFORE that friendship ended, we could say to those princes."CHOOSE btweens Ls Vegas villas and Jihad against the West." With Cheney Rummy in their pockets, the House of Saud gets to have BOTH. WHat a deal. Hence, when Saddam got uppity and took over Kuwait, they ordered their privately owned US army to oust him. But the LAST thing they wanted was Iraqi democracy. That would result in Shiites gaining BOTH power and democracy. horrors, since they have a large Shiite minority of their own. So the instant Kuwait was back in the hands of its own princes, out went the order. STOP! And we will forever be stained by the way we betrayed the people of Basra, who were rebelling at our request, on our behalf. Why do you think the Shiites aren't kissing us for liberating them now? They WOULD have if we had liberated Basra in 91. Now they are grumbling "About time, American Assholes. Now leave." Yes, Bush Jr wanted Saddam, who had gone gunning for Daddy. SO? That's personal. He still avoided any way of doing it that might have involved: 1) Telling the American people anything resembling the truth 2) working with allies and maintaining a hard won western alliance 3) First making rapprochement with Iran, the blatantly smart "Bush to Tehrean" equivalent of "Nixon to China". Even though that was the right way, it was absolutely forbidden by Riyadh. 4) Being straight with the American people. 5) Not making Iraq a gravy train for their frat brothers' companies. 6) Not lying to us The only way this possibly could have happened was 9/11. Bush had to be seen doing something. He hated Saddam. He wanted to play with our army as a "War Presidnet". Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. All of these facts reduced the Saudi influence just enough to unleash the present circumstance, which Riyadh deeply fears. The New Iraq will not be to their liking, which is one reason I actually SUPPORT our success over there. You may try to make me choose either-or. I refuse. But the Saudies DID manage to slip in that "axis of evil" bullshit, through their White House agent Cond Rice, driving the Iranian polity back into the arms of the mullahs and maintaining this ridiculous false hatred between two peoples who like and need each other. Dig this. If this bunch of rapacious klepto jerks are the best you Goppers can come up with we are in really bad shape. You used to make people like Barry Goldwater for #$#$# sakes! That's why it's California to the rescue. Ahhhnold represents ressurection of a wing of the Republican party that the Limbaugh/Cheney aristo %#$##s thought dead and buried. The dead shall rise. db > Well, Dr. Brin, it now appears that we have a > conundrum. > > It has been widely argued on this List that Bush is > simply a pawn of his > father's advisors. > > It has also widely been argued that even when Bush > came into office that he > was hell-bent on invading Iraq. > > You are now stating that in fact Bush and his > advisors have been bought off > by the Saudis to *not* invade Iraq. > > So, which is it? Were Bush & Co. forced > reluctantly into invading Iraq > by the events of 9/11 and Iraq's continued thwarting > of UN inspections? > > Or was this just another example of every Bush > policy being determined for > the benefit of a small group of frat brothers and > Saudi princes? ( But > wait, the Saudi princes opposed this war - oh never > mind....) > > JDG > > > _______________________________________________________ > John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "The liberty we prize is not > America's gift to the world, > it is God's gift to humanity." - > George W. Bush 1/29/03 > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ===== . . * Please note. My email address of many years is changing FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... (Or else use [EMAIL PROTECTED]) _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
