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From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Gay marriage update


> At 02:50 PM 5/22/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
> >Well, we've yet to have a constitutional amendment telling those tyrants
on
> >the US supreme court exactly what the 15th amendment meant...and its
been
> >exactly 50 years.
>
> Has anybody else noticed Dan M.'s obsession with race?     I know a lot
of
> people groan when I bring abortion into various topics.... and I think
that
> I finally know how you all feel what that happens.    I mean this is
> ridiculous.   Its nearly impossible to have a discussion around here
> without Dan M. turning it into a "Republicans are Racist Bigots" thing.



> I could point out that Congress didn't convene immediately following that
> decision to start writing a Constitutional Amendment - and  the pass such
> an Amendment in short order.  I could also point out that the US
> Constitution doesn't require two years for any amendment to pass.   I
could
> also point out that the US Constitution doesn't provide for the potential
> absurdity of a tyrannical judiciary creating a law plainly opposed to
that
> which the citizenry had established for two years until democratic
> processes can actually reverse that law.   I could also point out that
the
> deplorable state of "colored schools" were clearly not providing "equal
> protection."   I could also point out that desegregation of schools
didn't
> really begin in force until Congress passed subsequently passed a Civil
> Rights Act - whose specific name is eluding me at the moment.

Sigh, I lived through that history.  School desegregation was by court
order. Indeed, if you look at the civil rights act of 1964, you will find
very little of it has to do with public school desegregation. I just read
it at

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/laws/majorlaw/civilr19.htm

and saw that it mostly had to do with definitions and the right of the
attorney general of the US to sue on behalf of parents.

So, school desegragation was by court order, not by laws later passed by
Congress.  I don't know how many times I heard "tyrrany of the liberal
courts" during that time.So, I hope you can see why you triggered these
memories when I heard you using the same words.

As far as bashing Republicans, I know full well that, at the time, southern
Democrats...like Wallace..were instrumental in stopping desegregation.
Yellow dog Democrats in the south were mostly for segregation continuing
forever. The civil rights act of 1964 was strongly tied to a massive sea
change in presidential voting patterns...that's simply a fact.  Otherwise
one would have a to explain states that overwhlemingly voted for Democratic
presidents for 100 years or so would, all of a sudden be the only ones
outside of Arizona that went Republican.  One cannot simply put off as
coincidence all correlations one wishes to ignore.

Dan M.


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