----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism too close to home...
> > > > > Would I give up some liberties to ensure their safety? Absolutely. > > > > Not me. > I will tolerate inconvenience and hassles to provide for safety and to > preserve liberty. > Liberty is to precious for any individual or group to be allowed to > dispense. > Who do you trust with your liberty? > But, as Gautam has pointed out, we already are balancing liberties that we give up vs. safety. For example, our chances of losing our liberty to the government would be significantly less if the standards for conviction were a 99% or higher probability of guilt rather than beyond reasonable doubt. Some things within the Patriot Act present reasonable tradeoff between liberty and safety, and some do not. I'm not opposed to allowing a roving wiretap by the same rules that allow a static one. It doesn't make sense to require the government obtain a new authorization every time a suspect switches cell phones. I am opposed to internment of citizens without charge or access to lawyers because the government calls them a national security threat. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
