From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> That's not so true now.  We've had 80 years to think about it.  While I'm
> no expert, I've been thinking about the ramafications of QM for a few years
> now....more than I care to admit. :-)

Well, I expect once the quantum revolution is truly underway, we'll
never really know what hit us. Some of the things we can do already,
like sculpting electron orbitals (however briefly) totally boggles my mind.

> It is valid statement if one equates "understands" with "provides a
> realistic explaination of."  If one does not require a realistic
> philosophy, then understanding comes a lot easier.  I tend to like a
> Kantiant philsophy as a foundation.

How would you define "understanding" qm then?
I've had several classes in qm in my past, and I am pretty sure I don't
"understand" it in any way that makes real sense to me. I was once able to
solve homework problems and such in qm, but they were more exercises in
mathematics to me than any meaningful sort of thing. I could (and probably
will have to) give a simplistic description of some of the basic concepts, but
don't think I'll ever understand it in the same way I understand, for example,
Newton's laws.

><golf-betting example snipped>
While I'd never say never when it comes to quantum mechanics, I'd agree the
"teleportation" of humans is probably not going to happen. I do wonder,
however, if it's what Dr Brin had in mind when he was creating the dittos in
Kiln People, and if dittoing is done using a kind of entanglement.

> BTW, I don't recognize you as a regular poster.  If you are new, welcome.
> If you are an infrequent poster, my apologies for not remembering you. :-)

Thanks. As has been mentioned, I'm not new, but I don't say much. Mostly due
to time constraints, partly due to the fact I tend to stay out of emotionally
loaded internet conversations, which most of the ones here are. Not that they
aren't fun to read, though--I just don't have much to say about them except
the odd thing or two I'd probably regret saying later, so I don't say
anything. I do like to pipe up on the science and computer-related  threads
occasionally as time permits, particularly if I have a possible answer or
potential resource that hasn't been mentioned yet. I don't really expect folks
to remember me every single time, especially given my sparse posting level.

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