From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Phone home? (was: Every Single Sperm) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
> Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Actually, it's more like calling Jesus' > > >teachings 'Paul-anity'...<innocent grin>
[Huh, missed this the first time 'round...I actually was calling _Christianity_ 'Paulanity,' not the actual-as-far-as-we-know-which-isn't-very teachings of Jesus.]
I know. It's just that my whole spiel on Christianity is that it's based on the actual teachings of Jesus. But that's all the way back in another thread where I was attempting to point out hypocrisy as I see it. Alas, that train of thought in it's entirety has escaped me.
> Lets make a deal shall we? I'll make it a point to > read all of a thread. But > on one condition - only if I'm gonna make clever > remarks about it. You on > the other hand shall make it a point to stand by > your statements, even after > you have already stood by them. Deal?
Heck no! While I would never ask you to to stop making clever remarks, if you can <laugh, duck-and-run>
You'd better run!!
And no...I probably can't stop making clever remarks. <grin>
I do reserve the right to be persuaded by cogent debate to a differing viewpoint. ;)
I should hope so! As difficult as it may be to be persuaded (I hate that, don't you? I'm perfectly comfortable living life based on my own educated/uneducated <depending on how one see's it!!> preconceptions), it's something that is certainly worth looking into <lol>. I always try to stay out of that comfort zone as much as possible, and not rest on my laurels so to speak.
> Seriously though, I know that a change of opinion > can easily come to someone > in the wake of a good debate if that someone > actually lives up to the > definition of communication (which is a two-way > street), and if the other > person has a solid argument which cannot be ignored > with a straight face. So you aren't to blame, Dan is.
Umm, I wouldn't say "easily"... I can be _very_ stubborn without even half-trying.
As can everyone. But I meant 'easily' as in an open-minded person being persuaded to another side of an argument in the wake of a 'cogent debate', as you put it.
<serious> In another thread cross-over (from Dan's Hypocrisy IIRC), the concept of karmic slappage applies: I made an 'absolute' statement in an area in which I am at best a dilettante, and whose premise affects many many people...I got smacked for it. OTOH, "I am a Heretic Lutheran Deist" is not risking karmic correction because I am intimately acquainted with the subject, and the outcome affects but one.
That's a neatly written paragraph (thumbs up for that), but I don't subscribe to that karmic philosophy in relation to making statements (which is a part of discussion/debate, which in turn is the backbone of this list) or in practicing our apologetics and polemics. I simply understand that I am human and prone to imperfection, and want others to acknowledge that about me and about themselves as well.
<sniplet> > Therefore, by > the literal translation of you telling me to read > the entire thread (which > is some VERY good advice), I'm guilty as charged. As > for what that same > sentence implied, well, you can't blame me for > having my own opinion now can you? > Take that!<smile>
Not blame, of course...tease mercilessly - absolutely!
Excellent. You've just affirmed that you're willing to be serious (I genuinely admire your posting), and have fun at the same time (something that I already know).
-Travis "sometimes the place gets a little drab huh?" Edmunds
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