> "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
 
> > Horses actually do have color vision: they see
> >blue and yellow (and grey).
 
> That is very interesting.  Keith should be able to
> tell us what the evolutionary advantages are.

I couldn't find the nicely detailed article from
before (had lots of charts and graphics), but this one
reports "research [as of 1999] on color vision in farm
animals shows that they are dichromats with cones
(color sensitive retina cells) most sensitive to
yellowish-green (552-555 nm) and blue purple light
(444-445 nm)..."
http://www.grandin.com/references/new.corral.html

It also notes that pigs and cows have ~300 degree
field-of vision, so I wasn't that off when I said
horses have ~that.  There is a diagram showing a cow's
blind spot behind (they apparently don't have one in
front, unlike horses), in a discussion of 'flight
zones.'

However, I did find a site that says horses have
red-green vision, so perhaps we don't know as much as
we think we do -- although they mention something
about their method of testing for red/green
discrimination as "estimated indirectly using the
flicker photometric electroretinogram (ERG)," which
could skew results.
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/153/2/919
 
> In a `just so story' mode, I can tell you that
> yellow the color of the
> direct sun and therefore useful for determining
> whether you are in
> shade or not.  Blue predominates in shade.
> 
> Moreover, I presume that blue in association with
> yellow enables you,
> as a horse, to distingish among different shades of
> green and
> therefore among different qualities of grass.  Both
> sensor capabilities would cause those horses, or
> proto-horses, that possessed
> yellow/blue vision to reproduce better than those
> which lacked them.

Horses can definitely recognize a patch of their
favorite grass from a distance of at least 20 yards -
I can see a color difference (type of blue fescue), so
I'd guess that they can too, although it could smell
different as well.
 
> Is there any evidence that this `just so story' is
> true?  What are the alternative possibilities?

That other grazing animals have this same type of
color vision (assuming the first site cited above is
correct) would certainly point to an evolutionary
advantage -- after all, how else to describe the great
green-grey Limpopo River (IIRC)?.   ;)
 
This speaks about predator vs. prey animals' reactions
to novel or moving things:
"...In research on the brain, they�ve shown that the
emotion center is hooked up in such a way that rapid
movement can still activate a fear response in a prey
species animal. What does it make a predator do? It
makes a dog chase. They do just the opposite. This
little dog here (on the slide), she chased anything
that moves.  And the horses, they are going to want to
move away from things that move rapidly, unless they
get habituated. It�s possible to habituate a horse to
specific things they haven�t seen before that moves
rapidly. That is much more likely to spook them than
something that makes a steady movement like this that
doesn�t tend to activate the nervous system..."
http://www.horsemensvoice.com/grandin/

And I'll add that while horses are poor at generalized
thinking ("My dark fuzzy blanket isn't scary. This
shiny crinkley thing...is a blanket.  So it is not
scary."  Actual reaction:  "This Thing Has Trapped
Parts Of Horses! (reflections) Run for Your
Life!!!!"), they are able to do a limited amount of
it, if they have been carefully exposed to many new
situations.  Really scary or painful things/situations
can unfortunately be generalized very quickly
(trailers, people in white lab coats, and so forth).

Debbi
Furry Happy Monsters Feeling Glad Maru  ;)


        
                
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