I think you all miss the point.

I have dozens of old books with simple BASIC programs
in them that tell the computer to compute or to move a
dot in ways that show the vital importance of a simple
algorithm at creating what appears on the screen.  If
I had BASIC I could sit with my son and type in these
examples and swiftly establish a sense of power at the
gut level of the machine.

Most of the languages you mention are much higher
level.  Some involve GUI drag and drop methods that
bear NO relation to what I'm talking about.  Certainly
none of them enable a dad to use the mountains of past
experience sitting right here on our shelves.

Thanks.  But the only hope I seem to have is if this
guy I know gets around to giving us an old machine
with DOS aboard.

Utterly pathetic.

db
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