--- JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's up Nick - are you *really* going to try and > defend the outlandish > comment from Dr. Brin here that you snipped? > > --- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To call it "rational argument" when you > deliberately> > tell falsehoods about other peoples' views. Then> > use> > a DOZEN sophistries in just forty words.... John's an expert at drawing me back in. 1- It was a deliberate and stinking falsehood to claim in any way that I called "anyone who disagrees" with me a traitor. It's a lie. A transparently false and deliberate lie. 2- Among the absolutely absurd sophistries in the para in quetion were: The we should "wage war" on Egypt or Germany because they were also linked to the 9/11 attacks. Just one part of a paragraph that absolutely FIZZED with absurdities. a) I never said we should wage war on the Saudis, only that they are warring on us and we should wake up. b) Don't you deal with the bigger culprits first and in some proportion to their involvement? 15 Saudis among the hijackers plus most of the planners and all of the money, sounds like a pretty high proportion of a tiny population, compared to one egyptian out of a huge Egypt population. c) We only know of the cell in Germany because of vigorous cooperation by the Germans, the OPPOSITE of stonewalling by the Saudis d) that's a response to the litany of evidence of Saudi Jihad? That's a RESPONSE? Al Jazeera rants Jihad by night and the Wahhabi-purchased mosques rant it by day. We have no energy policy and conservation is gutted while oil prices skyrocket pouring billions straight from our SUVs into the pockets of those wanting death for our sons, and THAT paragraph sums up the wisdom offered in response? I don't even have the para in front of me, and it still resonates as so profoundly silly and illogical that it boggles the mind. Almost as much as the idea that I should have to explain my objections to such a "rebuttal". Or that John and Gautam would dare to throw it in my face again and again. This is absolutely IT. 1) to say that I call "anybody who disagrees" with me a traitor was a damned deliberate lie. Either prove it or @[EMAIL PROTECTED] apologize! 2) even if others disagree with my intensity of response to Gautam's para about Egypt and Germany, it is easy for anybody to see that it was an argument rife with flaws and not one to hold up as a paragon of argumentation. Dang, we should ignore a systematic and broad-fronted Jihad BECAUSE AN EGYPTIAN ALSO HELPED????? All right, you convinced me. Now leave me alone. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
