At 07:17 AM 10/26/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote:
>> No poster has questioned more people's patriotism on this List than Dr.
>> Brin, and no person has launched more overheated insults than Dr. Brin.
>> And quite frankly, it is a bit appalling when your only response is to go
>> after the *targets* of said comments.
>
>"Only response" appears to be based on the assumption that you are aware 
>of *all* of my responses,

Well, let me see:
 -You have not objected to Dr. Brin's overheated rhetoric publicly
 -In fact, to the best of my recollection, you haven't even really
responded to Dr. Brin's insults in any way
 -You have not sent me any off-list communication to the effect of "just so
you know, I think that Dr. Brin is way out of line here, and I wrote him
offlist that he should really try and act more reasonable in List
Discussions."
 -You have asked Gautam for an overly literal clarification of his response
to these insults in a way that struck me as more of a rebuttal than a
clarification.

>I'm not sure what you mean by "go after."  With my last message to 
>Guatam in this thread, my intention was to tell him how his words 
>sounded to me, then ask if I heard him as he intended.  I was seeking 
>understanding, not to criticize. (Not that I can boast of any great 
>skill at that.)
>
>Taking off my list manager hat... Are you saying that there are victims 
>of David's criticism who have behaved better than he has, so if I ask 
>for clarification from them, I should also ask him?

Yes to the former - Dr. Brin has been over-the-top in tossing around
insults in a way that has been unparalleled on this List - or at least
unparalleled in a long time.   No to the latter - I don't know that his
remarks nevessarily need clarification.   They have been repeated often
enough for all of us to get the message.

It would, however, be nice to see someone other than myself, Gautam, and
Dan to encourage Dr. Brin to at least try and respect the approximately 50%
of American voters who disagree with him.

JDG

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