At 11:02 PM 11/6/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
>John wrote:
>
>> This is, of course, my point.   Throughout human history one group of
>> humans has sought to define a nother group of humans that are "not like 
>> us" in some way, as not having the full rights of humanity.    In every
>> previous case, we have gone on to look with horror upon those who make
>> those arguments.
>
>You mean like Gays?

Well, I've thought about this, and no, I don't mean like gays.

First of all, as I have noted many times before, gays are free to marry
someone of the opposite sex in this country.  Thus, gays do have the full
rights of every other member of society - there is no double-standard.

Secondly, gays are free to marry to as gays in any Church that would
recognize such union.   

Lastly, as you know, I do support some form of "civil unions" that might
provide a number of legal conveniences for gay couples.

Therfore, I do feel quite comfortable in saying that the comparison doesn't
hold.    After all, nobody here says "I'm personally opposed to killing
gays, but I don't want to impose my morality on other people by voting to
make killing gays illegal."  

JDG



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