At 11:20 AM 11/10/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>Unfortunately, I seem chastened in my faith in my
>fellow citizens by recent events.  NOT the overall
>election trends.  After all, urban-educated America
>did vote as I perceived.  

I'd ask why the vote of urban-educated America is better representation of
the "overall election trends" then, oh I don't know, the actual votes....
but I can't imagine what the answer to that question might possibly be.
Or do you in fact provide an answer here...... ? 

>No, it's the whistle blower effect.  I had thought
>that we were past the era when large scale
>conspiracies could work without conscience-driven
>henchmen stepping forward.  But the rife and
>outrageous amounts of vote fraud that we have seen is
>so spectacular that, even if only 5% is true....
>
>Well, clearly we are not yet in The Transparent
>Society 

The only problem, Dr. Brin, is that approximately 0% of them are true....
of course if only 5% of the stories about Area 51 are true.... then we have
a "large scale conspiracy" covering up alien contact!      

And yet, now you have basically used innuendo to imply that a "large scale
conspiracy" committed vote fraud to steal the election.   But again, it was
"lying" to say that Iraq had WMD's even after we had seen Iraq use those
weapons, and after Iraq had given us no reason to believe they had
secretly, illegally, destroyed them?

JDG

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