At 01:32 PM 11/12/2004 -0800 d.brin wrote:
> contends that this 
>shows ALL of urban America voting blue. Too passionately expressed, 
>since the exceptions of Dalla, Salt Lake, Phoenix, and Indianapolis 
>all stand out.  And the "shades of purple" maps remind us that 
>democrats remain a disenfranchised 40% in much of rural America, 
>while republicans were a large minority in all but the largest urban 
>areas.

Dr. Brin, since when does "disenfranchised" mean "not winning an election"?
   Kerry voters were counted just the same as Bush voters, there were fewer
of them. 

>(Though my earlier point is that GOP voters are a FAR smaller 
>minority in urban areas than they were during other elections. 

This doesn't seem to be true.

DC, Bush up from 8.95 to 9.23% in 2004
Los Angeles County, Bush up from 32.4 to 36.1% in 2004
Cook County (Chicago), Bush up from 28.6 to 29.3% in 2004
New York, Bush up from 14.2% to 16.6% in 2004
Philadelphia, Bush up from 18.0% to 19.3% in 2004
Suffolk County (Boston), Bush up from 20.5% to 23.0%
Wayne County (Detroit), Bush up from 29.0% to 30.2%


In other words, despite high turnout, Bush did slightly better than in 2000
just about everywhere* - even in the urban centers where he fared the most
poorly.  Heck, Bush even did slightly better in:
 
Dane County (Madison), Bush up from 32.6% to 33.0%

At any rate, your above point appears to be most definitely not true.

> And 
>from the "defections" it is clear that the GOP intelligencia AT BEST 
>held its nose, and in many cases simply deserted.)

Out of curiosity, why do you keep harping on this point about the way those
of higher education/intelligence voted?    Do you believe that this should
be at all meaningful?   

JDG

* - I did come across a few exceptions, most notably San Francisco and
Seattle.... not too surprising, especially in the case of the former I
guess, and nobody bats 1.000.    ;-)

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