On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:58:03 -0600, Dan Minette
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: "God Is With Us" L3
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> >> That wasn't the question.
> 
> >It wasn't?
> 
> Nope.  If you want, I can quote the exchange, but it was the when you
> referred to "the lessons of Viet Nam."  Gautam questioned your ability to
> determine something that has eluded a number of people who have been
> intensely studying the field.
> 
> > When a foreign policy graduate student at MIT,
> > who received a degree in government from Harvard states that your point
> > differs from historians and political scientists who are studying the
> > period, then it is highly likely that you hold such an opinion.
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The lessons of Vietnam are far more universally accepted than Gautam
believes.  There is a small dispute fueled by those with an agenda
that the Vietnam War does not reflect well on.

Military lessons.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/military/etc/lessons.html

Political lessons (from the left)
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/chomskyin1282.html

The major article agreeing with Gautam (from 1985):
http://tinyurl.com/5c427
(http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19850301faessay8426/david-fromkin-james-chace/vietnam-the-retrospect-what-are-the-lessons-of-vietnam.html?mode=print)

Those whose idealogy prevents them from learning the lessons of
Vietnam are repeating the mistakes and making even larger ones in
Iraq.  Thanks to the internet we can get a citizen's eye view of the
Iraq lessons as American policy converts a militant secular
dictatorship to a police state ruled by corrupt religious parties and
tribal sheikhs.
http://tinyurl.com/59rrq

Gary D.
http://elemming2.blogspot.com
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