On Dec 17, 2004, at 2:49 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:

--- Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Next we'll be hearing me about Iraqis taking babies out of incubators in
hospitals in Kuwait -- part of a long Bush family tradition of telling
lies to justify war in Iraq.

You know, I spoke to someone on the US embassy staff in Kuwait at the
time who saw what was left of the hospital where that happened. The
numbers might have been exaggerated, that's about it. Next we'll see
Dave telling us about how Saddam wasn't that bad - part of a long
leftist tradition of excusing any totalitarian barbarity as long as it's
committed by an enemy of the United States.

Ridiculous prediction, Gautam, but not unexpected from the hopelessly blindered, but then again, that's part of a long rightist tradition of accusing anyone who shows the slightest sign of an open mind as proof of moral depravity.

You will never hear me say any such thing about Saddam: he is and was
a ruthless mass-murderer who deserves to be held accountable for his
nefarious actions. You will hear me say that we need to base our
decisions on truth, not lies.

Considering the success of the Hill & Knowlton PR effort behind
"Nayirah's" testimony, I'm not surprised that your embassy staffer
believes that s/he saw what s/he believes was evidence of what has
been quite thoroughly debunked.

Perhaps s/he actually went to a hospital. Perhaps it was a disaster area
after the war. Then again, perhaps, like the Kuwaiti ambassador's
daughter, she "hadn't been in the hospital herself, but that a friend
who had been there had told her about it." (Quote from the Christian
Science Monitor's September, 2002 story "When contemplating war, beware
of babies in incubators":

  http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.htm

Please refrain from personal attacks.

Dave

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