being perhaps only the straw that broke the camel's back- that was possible because the camel's spine had
been nearly snapped through under the weights of oppression, of which Stalin's reign was the heaviest
thereof.
Or do you think that if they had had an open society, democracy, and no repression, the pitiful performance
of their economy would have alone motivated them to revolt? Cause that's what it sounds like to me.
~Maru
Dan Minette wrote:
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Subject: Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz
Wait- Stalin's government was not overthrown?
Unless you count the Politburo taking over when Stalin died "Stalin's government being overthrown" then no. Every transistion from one government to another doesn't qualify as the government being overthrown. Different names are given to different transitions
Put on your tinhats people! The liberal media has been feeding us lies
about the fall of the Warsaw pact!
Actually, I'd bet you guessed that I knew that the Soviet Union no longer exists. Indeed I hosted a Russian soon after the collapse...and we discussed that collapse. He never once mentioned anger at the purges in the '20s and the '30s.
Lets look at what your contention requires. It requires that the implosion of the Soviet Union around 1990 is a direct result of the mass deaths caused by Stalin in the '20s and the '30s. In other words, people only got really upset 50 years later...and as a result Gorbachev had a program to liberalize the ecconomy...and accepted the reality that Russia's power was decreasing as its income was decreasing. During the last years of the Soviet Union, almost half the GDP was spent on the military, and it still was not keeping up with the US.
If the murders by Stalin were the cause of an uprising, it would be reasonable to expect it to have a less than 50 year lead time.
And perhaps the Sudanese are sufficiently upset and have begun fighting
back, with the weapons so abundant in Africa,
and waging guerilla war, and sending suicide bombs, Dan. I don't know- I
have no close links to any Sudanese. But from
what I've heard so far, the blacks are largely running and dying.
Correct me here if I'm wrong.
They fought for years, and were beaten back. They can no longer stand against their Arab rulers. I hope my daughter Neli will be interested in being on this list, after she comes back Sunday. Her best friend is actually the niece of one of the opposition leaders.
If a suicide bombing that kills 10 Arabs in Sudan is followed by a raid that kills 1000 blacks, and by a shoot on sight order for blacks who don't keep to designated areas, it probably won't be the start of a movement. If one or two more occure, then 2000, and then 4000 could be killed in retaliation.Suicide bombers are mainly efficient against people who feel at least some need of restraint.
Dan M.
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