----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Acts of War
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:24 PM > Subject: Re: Acts of War > > > > On Dec 24, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > > >> Kerry didn't have enough principle to clearly vote against *or* for > > >> the > > >> war. That was one of the things Duh-bya harped on: "Flip-flop! > > >> Flip-flop!" > > > > > > Gulf War I, not Gulf War II was being referenced. > > > > Oh, *that* "that" war. > > > > Right, since that was the war in which Iraq took territory. > > <quote> > > >I can only see it as strategic to Iraq if their purpose was to pull the > >West into the region in order to touch off a larger conflict. If it was > >to actually try to expand their borders, they were nuts, a possibility > >that cannot be discounted! > > Nuts? > > If your man, John Kerry, had been President, the US wouldn't have even > attempted to stop him. > > <end quote> > > In another post you asked: > > >Precisely what part of that, Dan, is not conjecture? Or do you believe > >"assumption" to be different from "conjecture" in some fundamental way? > > Pure conjecture is totally fabricated. Reasonable assumptions, on the > other hand, often involve the use of logic, data, and reason. For example, > if someone said they were opposed to a war and, when giving the chance to > vote for or against the war, voted against, one it is reasonable to assume > that person's actions and words reflecting their belief that the war was a > mistake. Given the "lessons of Viet Nam" that were assumed at the time, > given Kerry's position on earlier wars, it seems reasonsble to assume that > Kerry was being intellectually honest in his opposition to the Gulf War. > It's always possible that President Kerry would have a different view than > Senator Kerry, but it's not pure conjecture to assume that a person's > word's and actions reflect their thoughts. > > I'm more or less in the impure conjecture camp on this question. What one does as a Senator or Congressperson is not identical or even nearly the same as what one does as President. For one thing the sets of priorities are differing (Frex: who are your constituents?), and for another the set of informations you are being fed are often *very* different. Regardless of the amounts of fabrication involved, this kind of conjecture is still pure fiction and that should never be forgotten. xponent Pass The Salt Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
