Erik,

On Feb 14, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Erik Reuter wrote:

* Dave Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

The FDIC, SEC, FCC, TVA and Social Security were Roosevelt
administration products aimed at structurally addressing the causes of
that misery.

Has it been working in recent years (i.e, has the misery been largely eliminated)? If so, then why does the cost need to increase faster than the cost of living?

Actually, yes. People are receiving their checks.

In what way is it not working? Use additional spittle if necessary.

The Republican party has never quite gotten over what they believed
were socialist excesses.  Their apparently undying need to "turn back"
the New Deal is described in a January 28 Slate essay by Daniel Gross

Yeah, yeah, invent a straw man and knock it down. Real clever. Way to avoid considering that maybe people want to keep the system functioning without getting out of control, or Ifni forbid, IMPROVE it!

I'm sorry, Erik, but I refuse to call a 70-year history of trying to destroy Social Security (beginning in 1936 with the spectacular defeat by Roosevelt of Alf Landon) and regular attacks on the New Deal (many of them by name) from various Republican candidates over the decades a straw man. Do you think people are just making this shit up? It's history, man.

Social Security reflects a certain view of America: a place where
people are willing to sacrifice a little to ensure that seniors
wouldn't have to suffer the privations that the depression wrought on
so many of their fellow citizens.

Once again, is it working? If so, then let us keep it the way it is, rather than continuously spending more and more on it.

Once again, yes. People are receiving their checks.

I couldn't agree with you more on this point: "let us keep it the way it
is." What do you mean about "continuously spending more and more on it?"
Wouldn't that be what the President is planning to do? Spend about $2B
to convert the so- called "Trust Fund," which has been completely and
utterly spent, into money that the financial industry clowns who gave us
the S&L scandal, Enron, and so forth can mismanage for us?

Bye, Erik

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