JDG wrote ..

> At 05:01 PM 2/14/2005 -0800, Dave Land wrote:
>
> >Social Security reflects a certain view of America: a place where 
> >people are willing to sacrifice a little to ensure that seniors 
> >wouldn't have to suffer the privations that the depression wrought on
> >so many of their fellow citizens.
> 
> It also reflects a view whereby we raise taxes on the poor and middle
> class, exempt incomes above $90,000 from taxation, and send government
> checks to the likes of Bill Gates - but curiously, liberals never seem
> to mention that part of it!   ;-)

Sorry, but no. The *current state of the Federal government* reflects a
view whereby those things happen, and I can't believe I have to tell you
this, but that's *exactly* the kind of thing that liberals talk about
all the time. Michael Moore has made several movies on the topic, the
most notable being "Roger & Me."

My point about Social Security was that it reflected a (perhaps bygone)
view of America as a place that makes sure that its elderly don't go
hungry.

The biggest hidden costs in the Republican plan to "save" Social
Security will come when millions of retired Americans lose a chunk of
their so-called "ownership society" plans because the stock market
tanks and the Government has to step in because, let's face it, no
president is going to to preside over the starvation of senior
citizens.

Dave
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