----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: 1864 US Union election


> Many thanks to Julia for the official definition of the border states
> as Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland and Missouri, and for telling us that
> West Virginia, which was clearly `on the border', voted in the Union
> elections.
>
> Thanks also to Dan Minette for the count from those states that voted,
> although the value does not tell us how many were eligible.  We could
> try to estimate that, but there are difficulties.  For example, slaves
> could not vote, yet they were a large part of some states'
> populations.

Sorry, I didn't mention that I only used the free population.


> In short, we still need to learn how many would have been eligible to
> vote in the United States elections in the `troubled areas' had there
> not been an insurgency.

But, there is a tremendous difference between the two cases.  All of Iraq
was under nominal control of the US.  The South was under the control of
the Confederacy.  The National government was kept out by armies.  The
state governments were confeterate.

> As Julia said, `none of the states in the Confederacy participated in
> the Electoral College.'  That means that none of the people in those
> states voted.  This portion is even less than the 2% who are said to
> have voted in Sunni areas in Iraq.  On the other hand, many voted in
> places such as Missouri.

Right, because it was under Union control....the rest of the south had
Confederate governments, which clearly was inconsistent with voting in the
national election.

Dan M.


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