On May 5, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Erik Reuter wrote:

* Dave Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

"There is a God" and "there is no God" are equally statements of
faith.

And "there are fearsome, invisible, undetectable pink unicorns" and "there are no fearsome, invisible, undetectable pink unicorns" are equally statements of faith.

My God, Erik: we agree!

Well, mostly.

Actually, maybe not.

Damn.

The statements "There is [a/no] God" matter to people so much so that
they feel that they are "betting their lives" on their choice, or at
least so much so that they feel it necessary to burden Brin-L with their
[pro/anti]-religious proclamations.

One who was arguing from his conclusion might assert that the pair of
statements you posed above are statements of faith simply because he
had concluded that there is no difference between God and fearsome,
invisible, undetectable pink unicorns (IUPUs). With our extensive
Brin-L training, we would not fall victim to that logical fallacy. We
would not begin by asserting the unprovable claim that there is no
difference between God and IUPUs, so we could not conclude that there
is no difference between your pair of statements and mine.

Damn those Greeks.

Incidentally, one of my favorite resources for reminding myself about
the nature of logical fallacies is at the Atheism Web:
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html

But "there are babelfish" and "there are no babelfish" are not equally
statements of faith.

Because http://babelfish.altavista.com/ certainly exists.

May your own personal IUPUs bless you,

Dave

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