On May 10, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:

But, in fact, whether or not our forces were stretched
thin, other countries won't really be helping much,
because they don't have the military capacity to
engage in a wholesale intervention.

Or, apparently, the desire, for whatever political reasons might be expedient at any given time in a given situation.


The complete
collapse of deployable European/Japanese military
capacity since the end of WW2 has been one of the
untold, and most interesting, stories of international
politics.

That is an interesting thing to highlight. In some ways it can be seen as good -- lots less risk of internecine warfare -- but obviously there are situations where a European military presence might be desirable. Any of this due to the old cold war era? (Japan and Germany are relics of WWII, of course; I'm thinking more of nations that maybe didn't feel a need to have a large military since their countries had US bases in them.)


Anyways, yes, getting them to intervene is
good, but their intervention has been illegal and
unapproved by the UN.  You can be in favor of
intervention to stop genocide in Rwanda/Darfur _or_
you can say that intervention on moral principles is
contingent on international consensus.  You _cannot_
do both.  They are fundamentally inconsistent
positions.  The French government, which has veto
power in the UN, _aided_ in the Rwandan genocide and
denies that there is a genocide happening in the
Sudan.  As long as they do that, UN approval is
impossible, therefore legal intervention is
impossible.  You can either stand on international law
or on the necessity of humanitarian intervention.  You
cannot do both.

I think I see where you're leading with this, but there's a big difference between immediate pressing need -- genocide happening now -- and something considerably more vague -- oh, maybe there's nastiness afoot, we don't know, and oh by the way this guy did genocide, um, a decade ago -- which makes it difficult to support a suggested parallel between an illegal action in Rwanda and an illegal action in Iraq. There are too many extenuating circumstances to imply that supporting *one* illegal action suggests that anyone should support *all* of them or be a hypocrite.



-- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror" http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

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