On 5/12/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: Is Iraq better off? (was Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons) > > > At 07:54 PM 5/11/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > > >> I'm quite confident that you can handle this one on your own. > > > > > >Oh, please. > > > > > >I can't think of what I've said that is a measurement of this. I wasn't > > >asking to argue about it or play games about it -- I really would like > to > > know > > >if there is something. If I've said it, great. I just can't come up > with > > it > > >right now. > > > > You misunderstand. I'm not referring to anything you've said before. > If > > I were, I could probably cite the disdain you expressed for "provable > > likelihood of success" in an earlier post this week, or chastize you as > to > > why you think the increase in *hope* (definitely non-measurable) is so > > unworth mentioning in Iraq. But anyhow, I actually wasn't referring to > > any of that. > > > > Instead, I am just expressing my confidence that if you have even a > modicum > > of honesty you can come up with something that is measurably better in > Iraq > > today than it was under Saddam Hussein. After all, Saddam Hussein's > > regime was one of the 5 worst regimes on Earth. Unless you believe that > > Iraq is *stil* one of the 5 worst regimes on Earth, then I am *sure* > that > > you can come up with something - if you are willing to be honest about > it. > > I think a reasonable measure of this would be the opinion of the people of > Iraq. Ideally, the question would be "are you better off than you were > under Hussein" or "are you better off than you were three years ago." But, > a decent secondary question that indicates the opinion of the people of > Iraq is "are things going in the right direction?" > > The interpretation of such a poll will be dependant on where it is taken, > of course, but, at the very least, the changes in these numbers over time > should reflect changes in attitude. Would you and Nick consider this at > least some measure of the views of the people of Iraq? > > Dan M. > > Several of these polls have been taken.
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