On May 12, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually, Bush was in power...I mentioned it because the timing is actually important.
I thought the reference was to Roosevelt and Panama:
<http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h932.html>
Not to anything the US did in recent years. When referring to an area in which we have more than one historical effect, it doesn't hurt to specify which historical effect you're thinking of rather than listing off a long roll of names.
Sorry, I thought that it was clear that it wasn't Rossevelt because he didn't do that. Every example was post WWII.
OK, that helps. I was also conflating Panama with the Spanish-American war. Too damned much _Citizen Kane_ for my own good!
It's a little like not distinguishing between western Europe and mainlandEurope...
Well, I was thinking of the US sphere of influence in Europe. It was Western Europe.
No argument there.
I said mainland later because the UK and Ireland were not
invaded by the Germans during WWII, and were not candidates for US nation
building after the war.
Aha. What we had been discussing before, I thought, was the skewing toward democracy in all of Europe, and my impression was that we were talking about that emergent trait prior to WWII. (That is, from the early 1920s, perhaps, up until 1939.)
I'd also be more than happy to exclude the sphere of influence of the US
that was not in Western Europe, but in Europe, such as Greece and (sorta)
Turkey. With I used both terms, I was thinking of Europe, west of the Iron
Curtain, excluding GB and Ireland. The Nordic countries were included in
both cases. But, I can see how my terms might have been unclear.
:D
-- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror" http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf
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