On Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:51 -0500, Gary Denton wrote

> Unnh, wrong lesson. Capital is not that expensive in the United 
> States. Perhaps you are conflating into "capital" both capital 
> investment costs, including the regulatory environment, and labor 
> costs. Neither of those relate to the personal savings rate except 
> in indirect ways.

I believe you are mistaken.  The savings rate directly affects the cost of 
capital.  It is almost as simple as classic supply-and-demand -- the more cash 
that is saved, the more money is available for investment.  In the 
semiconductor business, for example, Japan beat us repeatedly by achieving 
economies of scale much faster than our companies by building larger fabs, at 
lower cost of capital, then manufacturing more product faster.  In that 
business, scale has has a multiplicative effect because high semiconductor 
yields (the percentage of good chips on a wafer) rise rapidly with volume 
because the manufacturer acquires the key resource -- experience with that 
chip and process.

For a long time, the U.S. semiconductor industry called for Washington to just 
keep out of any sort of trade regulation, but around 1985, the industry 
decided to call for political action, citing the difference in the cost of 
capital and its effect on their ability to compete.  Our government's 
response, which met with some success, was to persuade Japan to increase 
consumer spending, thereby decreasing the savings rate.

A major reason for the high personal savings rate in Japan was its lack of a 
Social Security system.  So one *could* conclude that we should abolish Social 
Security in order to strengthen our capital-intensive businesses.

I think it is easy to make moralistic argument about saving v. spending, but 
in reality, both are needed.  Where I think we get in trouble is focusing too 
much on one or the other.

FYI, this is a subject I wrote about in some depth around 1984-1985 as I 
reported on the chip business.  One of the most memorable moments of my career 
as a business journalist was on the phone with Bob Noyce of Intel, hearing him 
take a deep breath, a long pause and say that he had changed his mind about 
government intervention.

> Constructing safety nets is hard I wouldn't trust the job to those 
> who think they aren't needed.

;-)

Nick
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